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Humor in America --- I go:
read Thomas Szas on Karl Kraus I am (being enlightened about the perspicacious
(specificity is phunny) and personal nature of all proper language use)
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Henk
posts a poster for rides to the next big top in Barcelona and says: Hope
it works ---- I go:
work what again honkytonktinkerbell? -- get masses of classes to clash
and caper witda coppers AGAIN?????????????????? gimme a break? go places
where once the authorities guard dogs catch up to them they find territory
with a growing purpose encroaching on theirs, getting them superfluous
and fired but no matter so much since dey can soon switch jobs to consensual
commons / orchard Gstationing. -- - -- - --138151
Pathetic
(english) by Chuck0 3:05pm Wed Feb 20 '02 chuck@tao.ca Sounds like Bill
White is up to his usual tricks. Yesterday, an expose was circulated which
cut a little close to home for White, so his response was to claim that
he's filed a lawsuit against ARA. I read the article by ARA about Bill
White and it seemed pretty accurate to me. Now Bill has decided to throw
a temper tantrum and circulate a faked email from myself. What's really
funny is that White couldn't even forge a fake email properly. It has a
time stamp of "Date: 20 Feb 2002 18:58:13 -0000," which is 53 minutes from
now. According to this post, I have yet to write it and send it to anybody.
What a joke. --------------------
http://members.ispwest.com/jackdotcom/index.html
Jackdotcom's
Free Liberal, Progressive & Leftist Animated Gifs Civil Rights Corporate
Greed Corporate Media Diversity Environment Feminism Human Rights Justice
Labor Latin America Lampooning Bush Lampooning the Right Leftist Native
American Nonviolent Revolution Peace Movement Political Miscellaneous ----------------
138085 hey, paytention f O k! Here comes Gladiolator
the sandman finally spilling URL spelling (sparing us a googledeetour)
what all 'he's got on his liver' as the Dutch have it; quite the catharsis.
Turns out to be about genius inventors and all that.
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Robert
Fisk: Europe must stop parroting the American script in the Middle East
(english) by The Independent 5:32pm Wed Feb
20 '02 (Modified on 11:35pm Wed Feb 20 '02) 'After Israel has vandalised
11m euros of property supplied by Europe, why shouldn't we play a role?'
21 February 2002 While President George Bush rabbits on about the "axis
of evil" and his "crusade" against "terror", a real tragedy is about to
interfere with his mythic struggle against America's enemies. It's about
a place called Palestine. And a place called Israel. So idle, so lazy,
so pro-Israeli has Washington's policy become towards the Middle East that
the President still seems unaware that the real war in the region involves
its own ally - a colonial Israel - and a nationalist struggle run by Israel's
own surrogate Palestinian leader, Yasser Arafat. President Bush really
thinks he is conducting a crusade. True, he was warned not to use the expression
- Muslims are not terribly keen on the 11th century Christian knights who
slaughtered Muslims and Jews by the tens of thousands - but he used the
word again just five days ago. Speaking of the Canadian soldiers who have
rashly joined US troops in Kandahar, Mr Bush announced that "they stand
with us in this incredibly important crusade to defend freedom". Crusade
indeed. As Palestinians are learning from their Hizbollah compatriots in
Lebanon how to resist an occupying force - how to obtain "freedom" - Mr
Bush continues to give the Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon a green
light to "strike against terror" while at the same time demanding democracy
for all Muslim countries in the Middle East, especially Iran and Iraq.
But not, of course, for allies like Saudi Arabia and Egypt. The ability
of the Americans to re-write history and to blow-dry the Palestinian-Israeli
conflict into clichés is a scandal. The occupied Palestinian territories
have now become the "disputed" territories; Jewish colonies on Arab land
have become "settlements" and now, according to the BBC and CNN, "neighbourhoods".
Israeli death squads are now "elite forces" who carry out "targeted killings".
In the same way, the American media have declared victory in Afghanistan.
Another lie. Hamid Karzai's government controls only a few Kabul streets.
Afghanistan is a place of anarchy and lawlessness, of rape and brigandage
after America's war. One of Mr Karzai's own ministers is murdered at the
Bagram air base in an inter-cabinet feud. The British Army, which controls
the airport, is - so we are told - not responsible. And the Saudis allow
the culprits to go free. American B- 52s are now bombing "enemy soldiers"
- not enemies of the United States but warring tribesmen who happen to
oppose America's choice of leader, Hamid Karzai. It's an old story. We
British were fighting "warring tribes" in the 1920s. Now the Americans
do the same. And in the meantime, we must ignore the Palestinian-Israeli
war. The Palestinian Intifada uprising, provoked by Ariel Sharon's visit
to the Al-Aqsa mosque, is a "strategic error", according to the State Department
on Tuesday. An Israeli officer tells his colleagues, according to the Israeli
daily newspaper Ha'aretz, that they must "study how the German Army operated
in the Warsaw Ghetto". Needless to say the latter report is not published
in the United States. The truth is that the Palestinians have learned from
the Hizbollah in Lebanon. You don't have to submit to occupation. You can
fight back. With home-made missiles, with crude mines on the roads, with
suicide bombers. This is a cruel, ruthless war, the worst year of "terror"
in Israel's recent history. But it is an anti-colonialist war, a struggle
against Jewish settlements and I can well see why Professor Arie Eldar,
a former Israeli army medical officer, should announce that "we must execute
him [Mr Arafat] today". Yet still the US government parrots whatever Mr
Sharon says. Mr Arafat must end "terrorism", his plot to import Iranian
arms - always supposing it can be conclusively proved - a symbol of his
plans to destroy Israel. Listening to the US State Department spokesman,
you might think that the administration really has accepted the insane
Sharon thesis that Mr Arafat is a part of "world terror". In fact, given
the supine and cowardly American reporting of the Middle East conflict,
you might wonder why the Pentagon wishes to create its absurd "Office of
Strategic Influence (OSI)" to peddle truth and lies to the press. US journalists
are so gutless - so quick to adopt the government line - that it is surely
unnecessary to plunder the $10bn supplement to the Pentagon budget to sell
this kind of trash. A few days ago, I participated in a live American radio
show in which a former State Department official warned that Washington
may have to cut its ties with Mr Arafat unless he "curbed terror" - he
was, of course, faithfully following the Sharon line. I was supposed to
intervene with a plea for Mr Arafat. In fact, I suggested that Washington
should cut all its connections with Mr Arafat - because, given the total
failure of US policy in the region, it was time the Europeans took over
and acted as intermediaries. After the Israelis had vandalised more than
€11m worth of Palestinian property supplied by the European Union,
why shouldn't we play a role in the Middle East conflict? Apoplexy reigned.
I was not speaking to cue. But why the hell do we Europeans have to speak
according to the script? True, we have the occasional nutter - the Czech
Prime Minister, for example, this week comparing Mr Arafat to Hitler -
but in the world where Mr Bush tells us, like a Hollywood director, that
2002 will be a "war year", we have a right to speak out. The United States
has a right to its own illusions. The latest, from "American intelligence"
- the heroes who failed to learn of the plot to attack the World Trade
Centre - is that Afghanistan is threatened by Iran which has sent hundreds
of Arab and Afghan fighters to Mazar-i-Sharif to create mayhem. And of
course, these diabolical forces were "trained by the Hizbollah in Lebanon".
Needless to say, this rubbish is taken seriously in Washington and in Israel
(from whence it came). But we do not have to accept this nonsense. The
real battle exists between the Israelis and the Palestinians. Iraq is a
side-show. If Washington wants to reverse the priorities, we Europeans
can only pity them. But the condemnation of Mr Bush's policy by the French
and German foreign ministers and by Nato's leadership is real enough. Let
us have done with crusades and the "war on terror". Let's have some justice
in the Middle East. For Israelis and Palestinians alike. news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east...
---------------Robert Fisk is married to an
Arab (english) by Joe 6:54pm Wed Feb 20 '02
I just love reading Fisk's article. I think this guy gets on a high, when
he bashes Israel. What he wants is Europe to do, is have the Arabs exterminate
the Jews. Then Fisk will be happy. --------------
Joe
schmo (english) by Capt. Canuck 7:44pm Wed Feb 20 '02
Joe sounds like a typical American with his head up his ass. Fisk, meanwhile
has been living out in the harsh light of the Middle East for 30 years,
watching the horror unfold. He reports what he sees. Whatever "side" the
violence comes from-----------
Go
Fisk (english) by get it done 11:35pm Wed Feb 20 '02 Robert Fisk is a sensible
man. Hope there's more like him.
138033 +5 COINTELPRO
loves the word ZIONAZI
by anyone with a brain 11:01am Wed Feb 20 '02 (Modified on 1:40pm Wed Feb
20 '02) Funny how the word ZIONAZI always seems to be out there on the
newswire no matter what time of day it is. Could it be someone is being
paid to sit around all day and post it so the media can label IMC "anti
semitic"? don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with criticizing Israeli
policy.. But calling someone a ZIONAZI and that stupid icon about the israeli
flag equalling a swastika is fucking stupid.. Hey, what did the nazis think
of the Arabs again? This is a level of mudslinging and name calling that
shouldn't be allowed on the IMC it makes the legitmate postings look bad.
Anyone who supports the killing of innocent people in a pizzeria should
not get to post on here. Ditto for anyone who is talking about shooting
arab kids. Funny how similar the guys who post the ZIONAZI trash sound
to the people who post about killing all the palestinians.. But its probably
cointelpro anyway, isn't it. Hey guys, you're doing a great job, its really
hurting the movement (smirk).. add your own comments ----------------Hey
now... (english) by Matt McLaughlin 11:35am Wed Feb 20 '02 mmcl@erols.com
Hey man, I'm not for the killing of any innocent people, or any people
at all. But you gotta admit, the policies of the Israeli state toward the
Palestinian people is very much like that of a country hellbent on wiping
out the entire population of undesirables. They bulldoze their homes, often
while they're still in them, they continually attack civilian populations
in retaliation for attacks on their civilians, they colonize Palestinian
lands while the people already there starve and fade into obscurity, they
set up physical boundaries, isolating Palestinian villages completely,
and they deny the Palestinian people a democratically elected representitive
in the government. This obviously isn't at the levels of the holocaust,
but it has the same intent--to disappear an entire people in the same fashion
as the destruction of the American Indian nation. Is "Zionazi" an appropriate
term? I think so. But I think that "manifest-destinazi" is also an appropriate
term. Also, who the hell is calling indymedia "anti-semetic"?? I think
that's an undounded idea, as most people posting on here are probably atheists,
and we could really give a shit about a person's faith.
---------- do
you like nazis? (english) by Steven James Blake 11:38am Wed Feb 20 '02
steveb@nspi-inc.com do you like concentration camps? do you like murder?
do you like lies? do you like rape? do you like nationalism? do you like
theocratic fascist racism? tell me what exactly are you worried about?
the reputation of the nazi's or the zionists? let's not forget there was
no isreal before this century, ever. let's not forget how isreal was formed.
I refuse to play "nice" with a bunch of hypocritical non-semite, nazi racist
killers so you can feel safe. as an american i value free speech for all,
even if some "people" in my government do not, they are not americans as
shown by their actions. so I cannot say that the isrealies are jews, I
know jews, they don't bulldoze houses, they don't, shoot children, they
don't commit genocide. sharon thinks because he wears the human skins of
the murdered jews of auchweitz that he can do what ever he wants, well
he is wrong even if he does. defend yourself, what is your point, or are
you you know who. hmmmmmmm? sjb come out, come out, where ever you are......
------------------ not even a good try, moron
(english) by FREE PALESTINE 11:47am Wed Feb 20 '02There
is certainly nothing "anti-semitic" about the term "zionazi", which has
been in use among the left at least since the 60s. And Arabs are semites,
too, idiot. The usage is highly appropriate because of the zionist
role in one of the world's holocausts - that of the Jews in Germany. When
asked to help fund their escape (but NOT to Palestine), a leading zionist
said of the European Jews, "All the Jews of Europe are not worth a cow
in Palestine!" For more information on how the zionists participated in
it, visit: http://www.netureikarta.org and http://www.jewsnotzionists.org
As for the nazi flag = "israel" flag image, that too is appropriate. Both
symbolize racism, apartheid and above all a master race ideology that calls
for the expulsion or murder of rightful inhabitants of a land. Anyway,
this non-issue about the flags image and the term zionazi was concluded
a long time ago. And you zionazi filths lost. ------------------- ZIONAZIS
love the word COINTELPRO (english) by Anti-Zionist Action 12:12pm Wed Feb
20 '02 One Zionist, one bullet Finger on the
trigger, pull it..Opportunist Belligerents
(english) by Mr. Eminently Expendable 12:13pm Wed Feb 20 '02 Why do you
even need the term zionism? Why does genocide and ethnic cleansing need
a special name when it is practiced by a specific ethnicity? There are
pacifist zionists you know, who are not interested in "transference" of
Palestinians. There are Palestinians who do not wish to see all the people
of Israel vanish. It is the opportunists on both sides that are stealing
the spotlight by appealing to insane belligerence. I know that I personally
find the notion of nation-states and ethnic consciousness refutable, but
that is not as immediately pressing as the issue of encouraging the replacement
of Israel's leadership, as well as that of the puppet dicatorships in oil
producing countries. Can anybody explain to me though, what has been wrong
with the Israeli left in relatively recent history though? I can figure
that it has something to do with Israeli foreign policy opposers not supporting
the military refuseniks very much, but there must be something else. Does
anyone have any good resources on the subject? The hostilities can only
slowly subside when the settlers can live among Palestinians without walls.
That will only happen when Palestinians can live among Israelis. Anyone
who thinks there is any other possible ultimate objective is either very
creative and/or is absolutely insane.---------------------
No use trying to reason (english) by ??? 12:26pm Wed Feb 20 '02 "Funny
how similar the guys who post the ZIONAZI trash sound to the people who
post about killing all the palestinians.." Bingo! There is no use trying
to reason with people like Free Palace Swine. He's obviously some mixed
up kid with little if any contact with the Palestinian cause. It's easy
for twits like him to make all these stupid comments ("One Zionist, One
Bullet") because he has nothing to do with solving the numerous problems
in the Middle East, he justs want to be sensationalistic and appear "revolutionary."
The best policy for people like him (and all trolls including Chris Hansen,
COINTELPRO tool, JJ) is to ignore him. Like a spoiled child, the more attention
you pay to him, the more he will whine. Remember his stupid rants, "Ohhhhh
my stories are censored! Ohhhhhh IMC is controlled by Zionists!" Go eat
a porkchop you fake ass Muslim. ----------to
whom it may concern (english) by FREE PALESTINE 12:51pm Wed Feb 20 '02
"anyone" = "???" = "try" = "joe schmoe". And he's hopping mad at me right
now that he got publicly burned and lost the debate over the correct usage
of "filths". See the comments section at:
137976 Not only is "anyone" et al a poseur,
a whiner and a complainer, he is also a sore loser. I wonder if he's the
same zionazi coward who ran like crazy and donated his woman to Palestinian
freedom fighters when they showed up in Jerusalem's "Peace Park" last week.
It wouldn't surprise me. The character flaws of each are quite similar.
----------------Sorry Free Palace Swine (english)
by ??? 1:40pm Wed Feb 20 '02 I didn't post
the original article but it was right on point. You are a child who has
nothing to contribute to the struggle beyond your insipid rants. That's
o.k. Everytime you write something it just proves how stupid you are. Fire
away my little chitlin eating fake Muslim. ---- |
