173880 item about pro vs con of profiling; comment#174057 piet 1:06pm Fri Apr 19 '02 - I go: don't let this shit distract us from public  exposure (in the sense of permanent profiling for those in influential places; you choose living as a politician? Fine, study madonna and be accountable = presenting ((if not presentable)) allow populism to be sport that leads away from the juvenile and unpolympervparenthood related one and only via the chosen few to the magic many) thus making the contrast between the fast and fierce hooliman of the entreprouwdess hours and houris of individualims vs more responsibly slow and deliberate permapublicans clear. -------------

173891 There was no massacre in Jenin ---- I go (as last of plenny comments): sean you diabolic blindered man, tsk , tsk, t (english) piet 12:46pm Fri Apr 19 '02 comment#174041 Dutch media tidbits: Bush raising in (N)euro esteem, lowering in that of USies -- Baffling? I'd say! I was so flabbergasted and unbeleafy I forgot to read the (little) article ----- 260 antisemitic 'actions' in france this month already. If I wanted to polarize, I'd reply to sean that there never were any suicide atrocities this month either. Pure pro pig ender pal. ---- probusharonites say there were less anyway but an arab ecologist (yes the very sorta person who's existence I doubted in a recent comment, seems to teach at an israeli uni of all places) has a much more realistic take on the matter: this pruning will only encourage growth. Unity through opposition; good sparring practice; who says the jews lack the confidence of conceit. Hauptsache: die Wueste waechst, obwohl darin weniger waechst, spaerlicher, verhaltener, tischlein deck dich fischlein versteck dich denn du wirst unbeschreiblich weiblich. oh by the way, bout the UN (english) piet 12:52pm Fri Apr 19 '02 comment#174047 check the link within item 173375 for a much longer list than yours seanyson sinsan and may you burn to a crisp in the sunsoon if you love the handiwork of your favorite semites man!

174023 About Jenin (many clippings posted);I go: since the pali isra sexchange grate is 1:18 .  piet 1:42pm Fri Apr 19 '02 comment#174080we must expect some more retribulation tanxations this month to relieve the unsupportably saggin stress value of disrailian blood smeared on the imaginary borderpost life; after all even if 200 stinkers turns out a low estimate to chalk up to carefully measured presponse, XtsjAnusrate supporting federaelinjects, then .. . be where bewhere beeware beauhair to adorn sell a breeding power in the cowerbower of your feastbeast no mater twhat attitude; you got the archrival beat well and good; and chess is a respectable game. Over. Modest proposal to the filistines: look up what Karl Kraus wrote about you in connection with jews and bills of reckoning. Also: replace the red with grey in your flag and I will apply for citizenship, promise.

174084 on skinhead war in russia; As a variety of embassies warned their nationals in Russia to beware of attacks by skinheads following racist assaults from Moscow to Sakhalin, President Vladimir Putin declared "war" against racially motivated violence. "The growth of extremism is a serious threat to stability and public security in the country," Putin said in his state of the nation address. "I am referring first of all to those who under fascist and extremist slogans and symbols organize pogroms and beat people..." --snip-- The Oread Daily was a mimeographed sheet that came out first in the summer of 1970 in Lawrence, Kansas. It was irreverent, radical, spicy, revolutionary et. al. Now, three decades later it returns. To view the entire Oread Daily, please visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OreadDaily ===piet 2:38pm Fri Apr 19 '02 comment#174097=== I go: solzhenitsyn book on jews says:   jews never had it as good as there (according to a march tls reviewer anyway; we won't know since it ain't been trainsleightit terrainslated); hey, sure, give a jew a forest and he'll scrape every last bit of wood like a virulent popploading kitappaler, at least that would be my gist of a book on jews in poland by SS (simon schama, adieu). now my esteem for lbo-talk has sunk a few notches since reading that and seeing a thread about jews in russia make no mention of any of this, not as monumental as (such a) one (as I) would xpect I guess. I just wrote this russiajournal.com guy to counter mr Schwartz' whiney ways with this review. Can somebody in russia translate prettyplease????? I understand the russian jews are a major part of the zionist scheme and this Solzh book came out last summer!!!!!!!!!! -

Chris Doss The Russia Journal on Solzhenitsyn ------------------  I haven't read the book, and probably never will, but I do know Sol. preserves the distinction between the "Russians" and "Jews" and points out that ordinary Russians have suffered just as much historically as Russian Jews (he may have a point there, what with most Russians up until the mid 1800s having basically been slaves). Sol. is not known in Russia as an anti-Semite. He's known as a lot of other things -- hack, pompous ass, traitor, society's conscience, back-to-tsarism lunatic, irrelevant anachronism, depending on the person -- but not as an anti-Semite. This puts me in mind of one of those anecdotes I'm fond of recounting: I was, um, imbibing with a friend of mine, a Russian artist in his early 40s, when we began talking about Sol. He said, "I remember back in the 70s Solzhenitsyn could do no wrong. But then I read an American magazine that had somehow been smuggled into the country, and Solzhenitsyn was basically arguing for a nuclear first strike against the Soviet Union. And I thought to myself, 'Alexander Isayevich is whoring himself to the Americans. I can understand that, he's a father and he wants money for his children. But you know what? I'm a father too. So my children should die so his can have piano lessons. Fuck you, Solzhenitsyn." Chris Doss The Russia Journal BTW, despite all the build-up, there hasn't been any violence yet, to my knowledge. Of course, what they are worried about in Moscow is the big Spartak soccer match today (the violence at the Tsaratyno market last year took place after a soccer match). Also BTW, Putin called for greater vigilance against racially motivated violence in his State of the Nation speech on Thursday. -----------

174538  on one of the in my opinion best items of the year by Santiago Alba Rico, translated from Rebelion.org --- I also placed this at 18306 jerusalem saying: victim/perpetrator cycle(s) explained masterfully  One of this year's best indy items (via ccpm and z-net), even better than the pejorative journalism by 'hosenslorcher' -- the only commenter complained about the absence of suicide bombers in this most eloquent equation which has entered my prfr series ----  (I sora gratuitously stuck this blurb on propalestinians in Holland up here, where it is a little out of place I admit),what is with you peepull doesnt allow doing (english) piet 2:59am Sun Apr 21 '02 comment#174544 a regular homo maroccan columnist in holland gives an honest account of his discouragement over last week's 20 thousand heads strong propalestina protest. He 'fears for his country' (instead of actively emulating the succesfull neighbourhood father project rite here in A'dam and participating). He only watched part of it cause it was in his way and cites a huge maroccan who found it to cold to participate. Conclusion he projects desillusion with his own apathy on the country. This last weekend some jewfella is allowed to preach doom and gloom complete with giant mushroomcloudcartoon speculating (placing bets?) on telaviv as possible 'locale' rather than fess up about his stubborn refusal to radically rethink stuff. Arabs seem no better judging from the cyberistan.org/islamic site where you will look in vain for any beleaf in my sense of the word; no mention of greenery at all in fact. ------------------ ccmep.org/hotnews2/youare041902.html also at: 174538  You are sleeping, you do not want to believe.... karl 1:50am Sun  Apr 21 '02  as i read this, carefully, i experienced a moment of clarity. IRREFUTABLE. Santiago Alba Rico Rebelion.org April 19, 2002 MIDEAST WATCH Translated by Francisco González ----- This is truely excellent; on a par or even better than Hosenslorcher ---- it was reposted at 174983 and got a handful of replies:  ?? sorry space the title ?? Big Mac 12:10pm Mon Apr 22 '02 comment#175011 Eloquent, certainly. Illrefutable simply because it relies on emotion rather than hard facts. Facts can be interpreted measured. A post like this can be summarized thusly. If you think Israel is justified then you think Hitler was justified. Israel is bad. US is bad. Turkey is bad. Poor old Palestinians. Repeat liberally. A point could be made on any of these statements but verbosity does not an argument make. Unabashedly stilted language and emotional appeals and the meat and potatoes of this post. I'm sorry but some of us left brain types will read this and be unmoved. --------------- perhaps (english) mayor mccheese 12:34pm Mon Apr 22 '02 comment#175027 Bigmac: why do you shield your yourself behind the trappings of the scientific revolution? even facts, especially statistics, are warped by those with an agenda. there are times in life when making a pro/con list of "facts" cannot and should not be used as a basis for making a judgement. these are times when actions must be evaluated on their own, through the lens of your own sense of morality. morality is a emotional thing: not bound,constrained or created by facts. what is right and what is wrong. sometimes we must judge by what we feel. this must be done outside of any "historical context", "scientific reasoning", or "political agenda". this is philosophy, morality, not science. ------------- Wher's the beef?  Hamburglar 12:59pm Mon Apr 22 '02 comment#175046 Mayor McCheese, What would Big Mac know about natural things like emotions. After all he's all soybean trying to pass himself of as being "beef". He is a true capitalist. ------------- Big Mack, peice of shit decieter. Steven James Blake 2:12pm Mon Apr 22 '02 steveb@nspi-inc.com comment#175069I suppose you defend the use of the so-called "jewish" right, to paint themselves as victims when they are occupying the palistinian lands with the 4th most powerful military on earth backed up by the most powerful military machine known throughout the history of mankind. I suppose that you think "collateral damage" is ok. I suppose that if your grandmother lived in palistine and she was bulldozed under the rubble of her home by an isrealie military bulldozer, that would be alright. I suppose that if the "nazis" skinned your children and made them into lampshades, that would be ok too. I suppose that touting direct lies as proof of facts is ok in your book too. I suppose that you believe what ever your government tells you to. I suppose that you think it is ok that our government experimented on black sericemen by infecting them with syphallus just to see how it would spread through the black community. I suppose you think that Corperations should decide what evironmental regualtions should be followed. I suppose we should let serial killers judge their own cases. I suppose that you think you live in a democracy. I suppose that you think that isreal is a democracy and not a paticepatory theocracy. I suppose that you either believe everything you hear or are a complete peice of garbage. wake up you idiot. There is no more room for liars, you know quite well what the facts concerning the isrealie-palistinian sitiuation are, and if you don't just look at the maps of palistinian territory vs isrealie controlled land in the occupied terrorties and you will understand even if you will not admit is. Every lie you tell or let stand kills a child somewhere, and I hold you responsible for your actions. Of course you probably just some jerkoff that likes to get a rise out of people, considering how inept and stupid you come off, you probably are just a news tourist with no will or soul. kill a child and die. Steven James Blake Proud Citizen of The United States of America NOT the fast food dipshit bushswallowing dipshit "STATE" of america -------------- you make me want to bang my head.....Patrick 9:03pm Mon Apr 22 '02 comment#175198 so mr. blake.... let me get this straight. you feel the need to spout, and waste space that could be black background fill, against big mac, who seemed to just dispute the somewhat lofty assertion that the preceding post was "irrefutable." mr. rico in his original post had requested that people refrain from name-calling, but i guess you're point was just too important. also, you might think of spell-checking your posts (or at least their titles). >Big Mack, peice of shit decieter i think you learned those "i before e" rules backwards... oh yeah, one other thing. decieter isn't a word. here, in the english language, we use the word "decEIver." (note the spelling correction) >Every lie you tell or let stand kills a child somewhere, >and I hold you responsible for your actions. >Of course you probably just some jerkoff that likes to get >a rise out of people, considering how inept and stupid you >come off, you probably are just a news tourist with no >will or soul. >kill a child and die. "some jerkoff that likes to get a rise out of people"?????? talk about the pot and the fucking kettle.... -----------------------

175267 Palastians need to learn from Native American history Andy munger 5:43am Tue Apr 23 '02 andrewmunger@yahoo.com  The connection between American Indians and the palastianians has been made by several writers on the internet. While it is somewhat valid, there are alot of differences between the struggle of both groups for land they believe belongs to them. Both American Indians and palastianians fought wars to preserve their historic lands and lost. Despite this, Native americans have citizen status, while thousands The connection between American Indians and the palastianians has been made by several writers on the internet. While it is somewhat valid, there are alot of differences between the struggle of both groups for land they believe belongs to them. Both American Indians and palastianians fought wars to preserve their historic lands and lost. Despite this, Native americans have citizen status, while thousands of palastians are seeking a state of their own. The 1993 peace accord provided a promise and hope for this. American Indians were promised this only to have the many treaties broken by the U.S goverment.American Indians will never have their own state. Israel is currently waging war and destroying property of palastians in the west bank. the maerican indian fought his last war with the U.S Armyover a hundred years ago. Both groups have considered the Americans has their biggest threat and enemy. America's support for Israel has caused the palastians has much damage as the English support for The easly colonial wars agaist the eastern Indians of North America. Both groups have waged conventional war and guerilla war. The Arabs were once a conquering people. The American indians have traditionally been the conquered. Where as today there are afew million native Americans, there are over 300 million Arabs in the world. The main difference between the Indians and the palastians is the presence of Islam. Muslims can not truely ever be assimilated in the jewish state. American indians have been mostly assimilated once they leave their reservations. They had to forgone and distance from traditional culture. Had the Native American had the uniting force of religion they may have prevented the conquest of their continent. They were a scattered disunited people not too different than the Arab world pre-Muhammed. Muhammed was able to unite this small tribe to capture sand spread all over the mideast. They defeated,took land, and assimilated people much like the way the American west was won. Now the foot is on the other end and it is the Palastians fighting for their survival. The Jews feel their survial in israel is also at stake. This conflict will only end when one side gives up and accepts defeat like the American Indian did. As long as the palastians have Islam and millions of fellow Arabsthere is little The United States and Israel can do short of extermination. Foir those who think this is impossible and would never be done, they can only look at the history of the Native American. This may be the "final solution in this culture clash and couldbe the reason America is so worried about a strong Iraq. Presently, a united Islamic world would be about as effective in resisting this as the American Indians efforts were against the superior technology of the west. Yassar Arafat and the palastians need to be careful or they will end up like the native American. ============ yeah wonderfully levelheaded . .but .. . . .piet 11:30am Tue Apr 23 '02 comment#175362 let's look at the differences; although the expansiveness of europe spilling into (and the blood of) native america was set on similarly innocently unconscious and adventurous empire chasing relayboost as the us seems to be, benefiting from soul simplifying blood mixing and unmolested soils, the (euro and us) exploitation and poisoning now seem roughly comparable; leaving the abuse of the cultural shallows (american naivity) as the workforce set to secure oil access, no less a 'propellant' than the hunger for gold once was, the present setting is totally different. We lost our eco innocence. For those not blinding themselves and shortcircuiting other senses taking in impressive changes it becomes less and less hard to accept that 80 - 90 % of deserts are that on account of man In that respect the ME tops the ranks of regions with in this respect heaviest karma on record (on a par with the aboriginal one perhaps). There will no doubt be a 'time station' in the near future where the dutch experience range, captured in the adage: 'pump or drown' can be put to use, modified, revalued and updated to 'pump or dry out'; I think the vital sober up aid for Zionists to remember the greener bible passages would be having their funding flow suffer a redirect from arms to solar and other greenist gardentricks (like my heavy mists) ; let'm realize how many olivetrees they tore out this year and ask all their sponsors back state side to double their aid efforts in order to redress this quickly. Stop the mad identification with and taking counsel from what once vanquished them. All in all, if a massive capture of moisture in biomass for what are now nothing but loosest of sands would succeed we might not have to build dikes all around northern europe or be over come by floods of refugees -

175673 Israel Shamir on French political upset; my comment: opening borders along vertical axes evrywhere piet 8:05am Wed Apr 24 '02 this can be done whereever and becomes most effective there where mama's bones stick through her flesh due to human 'engineered' denudation. This is certainly needed on an international scale. Such code of conduct would certainly earn the passe partout in my book. No one should be barred from places where this is taught and practiced. the quest yon marker wrote: So we should become nationalists? I don't think the solution is more nationalism but more internationalism. That's what the left should be about. Opening borders, not closing them.

175676 Lenni brenner on revisionist zionism (84) reviewed piet 3:51am Wed Apr 24 '02  washington-report.org/backissues/ 091784/840917010.html; a whole (83) book on zionism is available at marxists.de/middleast/ brenner/index.htmI -------  stuck a blurb from Brenner's sociology found at LBO-talk up at jerusalindy 18358 and got an endorsement from the 14th c'er  next door -9: His "The Iron Wall: Revisionist Zionism from Jabotinsky to Shamir " is available from the aforementioned  Wash Rpt on M-E affrs/AET: <wrmea.com> for a total of about  ten eleven dollars, which is the best bargain since Prince Albert was invented. --- Ps: no article ----  told you so --------- 1st comment: oops can't leave this a perfect no comment piet 4:14am Wed Apr 24 '02 comment#175677 anybody suprised?    Here is some supple mentation: flamemag.dircon.co.uk/  brenner_afghan_war.htm includes 6 cartoons ----------------  that book I mentioned a review of is online also: marxists.de/middleast/  ironwall/index.htm Here is a conclusion of part 2.   Russian Zionism: Treason to the Jews Conclusion  Can we today applaud the role taken by Zionism in the theatre of the Romanoff  empire? We cannot be kinder than its own reviewer. What Weizmann said of Herzlâ??s cabal with Plehve applies to Russian Zionism in full sum: humiliating, pointless and disillusioning. Who today could try to justify any movement that had an audience with Louis XVI on 14 July 1789? Ante-bellum Zionism had the traitor's part in the revolutionary play, as insensate of the life problems of Jewry as the local Theosophists or Esperantists. Only with Zionism we hear off-stage whisperings and  treacheries in the ministries of anti-Semitism. For Zionism to have ever been correct politics we must believe, ipse dixit, that the eventual creation of a revived Hebrew state should have been the prime political concern of flesh and blood Jews. That was nothing better than ideological future-music. Drowning swimmers need dry land, not the Holy Land. Magnification of things Jewish and of the past homeland of the Jews, tells us that we deal with philosophers intently gazing through the wrong end of the intellectual telescope. What must be said of the movement must stand for one of its leading protagonists. Goldmann summed him up quite simply and well: a monologist. The truths of politics are always as simple and common as the simple and common people. Yet fanatics of all persuasions live as if they have a superior wisdom all their own. It is obvious that people prefer to speak the tongue they already understand 'which is of use to them' than the language of their ancestors 20 generations removed. Such extravaganzas are the metier of the educated. In no country have poor Jews been the base for the Hebrew language or Zionism. Vastly more economically secure than the people, an accomplished linguist and literary wordsmith, Jabotinsky was totally estranged from the masses. Always at the podium, a spieler, a talker, for him Zionism was the word from on high and he was the Moses of Odessa, trying to lead a  stiff-necked nation out of Egypt. In the real world he was doomed to see the educated youth of Jewry reject him and his ideas and join the ranks of the revolution.

175768 Hurray for Growing Anti-Semitism???? (english) anti-nazi 11:46am Wed Apr 24 '02 comment#175803 Once again, Bill Royere shows his hatred of Jews. Readers, please be advised that the person who posted these articles is a white supremacist named William Randolph Royere III. (Yes, another Nazi named Bill. But this one doesn't seem to be the infamous Bill White.) Royere has chosen to hate Jews, not Zionism. In fact, he makes no distinction between Jews and Zionists, writing "Jews and Zionists and Zionists and Jews. For my money, they're all in the same basket." (see article 166524). He pretends to support Palestinians in their struggle against the Israeli occupation. But he actually does not respect Arabs (see article 164323). Previous anti-Jewish posts by this Bill include article 169268 and 169272, in which he says "Kill the Jews." More of the same is at 168165, 168200 (in which he wants the US to start building new gas chambers), 166238 (in which he spreads the urban legend of an anti-Jewish warning falsely attributed to Ben Franklin and also spreads the erroneous notion that Jews killed Jesus Christ (when actually it was the Imperial Roman occupiers who did)), 165882, and others. In 171734 he describes his support for inherited monarchy. (Yes, a monarchist at Indymedia!!! Will wonders never cease?) His claims are rebutted at 171811. Royere has a preference for copying stories from World Net Daily, a right-wing, Christian American news and opinion website. He often adds his own spin in the summary section of his IMC posts. Please take this into account when you read his posts. I believe I entered a civilized sounding piece of mr Royere along with a comment on his strange website in my last indy issue. Goes to show what difference 2 pairs of eyes make of one single complex fella human being.

176331  oneworld.net  piet 1:47am Fri Apr 26 '02      new on me; profuse service, 9  languages, 1000 orgs; let's see if I can  find a worthy sample . . ah yes, a fairy tale: Tinker's Bubble =>  might as well add a more serious link   ids.ac.uk/cgap/ micro-credit.   their development finance archive has 103 messages for march (=lively) ==>    for a simple beginners update for prehistoric gift(ec)onomyies  go to synearth.net

 176299 Marco on Roberta Blackgoat; I add a response to an uncomprehending previous commenter: if you can't grasp what marco might  mean  I recommend starting some books by Barbara Kingsolver; that might get you a lot closer to the 'remotenesses'  you are coming from.     And I could mention Louise Eldrich so you certainly won't  come up empty handed if you are close enough to a library even if you can't surf marco's site. --------  closer to the 'remotenesses' - piet wtf?   s.pam?    really? "closer to the 'remotenesses' you are coming  from?" so am i coming from the remotenessess or going closer to it?   wtf once more? "remotenesses"? haha since we aren't using complete sentences or even real words, i hope you won't mind my lack of capitalization.   haha, get it? "capitalization"? no, you don't. there's  nothing to get.   this has really gone all to hell now. certainly not news, but  we've already passed that milestone, so... no worries.   really, the original post is already incomprehensible and if you can "grasp what marco might mean" then i would recommend some books by Edgar Cayce or maybe Madame Cleo, 'cause you're fucking psychic. Haha ;-) although you know, as well as i, if marco were not running with the 'in-crowd,' responsible for keeping the wire clean, the original post would be hidden as spam.    seriously, i appreciate the references and i know you weren't trying to condescend, but i've actually traveled the world questing for indigenous people's rights and i'd be more capable than many at deciphering and accepting this content even without your help. the point is, it's unintelligible especially to the neophyte reader and hardly a news item. in fact, not even complete sentences. abuse of the wire can go both ways and selective editing policies really perturb me. I see dedicated readers lambasting right-wing spammers or the infamous http://go.to/bushsucks links. then, something like this comes along, it's defended, and I think it could make indymedia look hypocritical. i do, however, apologize if *that* perturbs you. it's great though, that we're both allowed our opinions and a forum in which to make such comments. even when it does get silly. ------------  Your Polemics Defile A Memorial   marco    83 year old Roberta Blackgoat died April 23, 2002.   I was being poemical; you were being polemical.   Now I ask you, if this isn't news - what is?   marco

http://tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/  from hacker revenge: 5.1. 1. Forget bottom-up; work on top-down One of the things that seemed clearest was that the historical Unix strategy of bottom-up evangelism (relying on engineers to persuade their bosses by rational argument) had been a failure. This was naive and easily trumped by Microsoft. Further, the Netscape breakthrough didn't happen that way. It happened because a strategic decision-maker (Jim Barksdale) got the clue and then imposed that vision on the people below him. The conclusion was inescapable. Instead of working bottom-up, we should be evangelizing top-down -- making a direct effort to capture the CEO/CTO/CIO types. ---- I go:  work from the bottom down for a top up (into rocks to fluff the scenery) ==>> I specialed and prfr'ed this here: ESRaymond.htm (120K)   from homesteadng the noosphere: In this paper, I examine in detail the property and ownership customs of the open-source culture. Yes, it does have property customs -- and rather elaborate ones too, which reveal an underlying gift culture in which hackers compete amicably for peer repute. This analysis has large implications for anyone interested in organizing large-scale intellectual collaborations. -----

indy org il 23894 by Ran HaCohen: When acting against soldiers, the suicide bomber has international law on his side. Yes: international legislation acknowledges the right of occupied people to use force against their oppressors, both inside the occupied territories and outside them. and 20297 www.foeme.org friends of the earth middle east

176409 the us economy surges (a paste from Fox which ((is probablty why it)) got hidden); here are the comments: who knows Rob 9:35am Fri Apr 26 '02 comment#176417 U know - who knows! At the end of the USSR everything was also perfect and great. They fulfilled every plan they made - that is at least what they told themselves and the world. A few days later and: BAM! I have no doubt that the US administration is able and willing to falsify every statistic they like to and to lie to the people until their last day. Therefore: I don't buy the numbers. you mean... (english) blitzen 11:26am Fri Apr 26 '02 comment#176446 ...economic success for the U.S. doesn't meet with your particular ideology, so you reject the facts? ============= A better gauge (english) SVA 11:29am Fri Apr 26 '02 comment#176448 Better more honest gauges of the economy would be: 1. How much money are corps spending on marketing and advertisment, R&D, and expansion. 2. The current national unemployment rate, broken down by region. Corps tend to cut back on spending, if they project negative net profits for the short-term. Short-term normally being 2-4 quarters. SVA =========== the better half covers for U-S-Lackers (english) piet 1:03pm Fri Apr 26 '02 comment#176474 that be the 'defense' industries, always the 'gangmaker' as a weird cyclesport expression has it. A very fascinating one to us kids having had to peddle to school against headwind and being very happy to find a moped slow enough to keep up with. Wouldn't you know it, they (belgians and ditch foke) turn this into the type sport done in stadiums with leaning hardwood sides. America has had that famous skater sprinter pal widthda huuuuuuuuuge thighs introduce ittoyouall no? Now, please see that they (armamental cases) are restrained, put to shame, . . . why not literally lose their balls. . . . hey that's an idea, let's envision a future where incurably selfish types suffer that fate (after ample fair warning) by the age of, say 16 (should be an increasingly diminishing percentage by the time that goes into full effect but for now, this godawful spooky emergency), let's see if we can get the housewives of arms and army industry related professions to cut the balls off of their mates all at the same time as if it were a loonymoon pagan todo in about a . well . . cut'm some ssslick ssslack. lessssay .. . before this quarternary timelapse snaps shut (or so); sicker, seep and drop this whole item on a flyer in the base male base box . . . errr. . .forum ... list . . .aaaeeeh, how do we get a hold of these ultra insecure brutality condoning females anyway. I am at a loss . .. aren't you? Ps: learn dutch today (along with aforementioned irresolvably oppolaridiculizations) via an excellent book: Finnegan's wake in bilingual edition for only 70 pleuro If we can't fight fairly clever, nor clever fairly we should reduce fightin to one on one fair and knowbody rig the ragridden jury rule ok?  ========== The gdp rising does not mean economic upturn (english) Steven James Blake 1:12pm Fri Apr 26 '02 steveb@nspi-inc.com comment#176478 This is trickle down economics. this up turn is mainly in the defense industry. which in real dollars and jobs means nothing to average americans. the real measuring stick of economic prosperity is what the average american is making and how many have full time jobs with money in the bank. and these numbers suck. we are heading for a world wide war. and our defense industry is being preped to build the war machines we need to support it. in addition with all of the recent tax breaks for corperations, not much of this money will be returned to us. some of it will return from the various workers who pay taxes. most of it is moved "off-shore". See you in the new american "STATE" Hope you like the new non immigration service. Seige Heil. brush up on your german boys and girls. sjb =========== brush up on your crush up rather, friend(s) (english) piet 1:35pm Fri Apr 26 '02 comment#176482 I'll let you have a sample free from that impressive(ly priced) tome. Today's NRC: born for lorn in lore of love to live and wife by wile and rile by rule of ruse  ----  gelegd in wiegen om te liegen van lijven als wijven die wijlen en willen op wallen na lallen met ballen I'll buy it. Some day over@@@@@@he mainflow stop pestering genteelasses and my ready to rumble for better crumble minkin ya cowards behind numbers and even less playcent ammoperdition ya funks ya flukes ya losers of love. ========= Burn, burn, that oil! (english) J.I. 3:09pm Fri Apr 26 '02 comment#176499 The faster, the better, baby! fromthewilderness.com

176978 http://argentina.indymedia.org/news/2002/04/23734.php argentina alternative-finance.org.uk enlaces ---- huge page of close to a hundred alternative / independent / autonomizing currency system links to places throughout Latin America in spanish  Navigate to the spanish page within alternative-finance.org.uk for the hypered version ----- Oops, that url should be ....    Close to a hundred sites linked and blurbed.  Here are the citations mentioning Argentinia directly: foncap.com.ar/ ------ idemi.org.ar -------netic.com.ar/

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174046 I thought this was an item which had my comments on cyberistan.org/islamic(about not mentioning plants or any of those life sciences but perhaps I stuck it elsewhere in Dutch) but it seems an unrelated comment by someone else ------ 174487 Interesting item as are today's (the 24th; I did my share on Dutch indy and I have a bad habit of not translating my own work)-------- 174850 according to a commenter the inminds.com boycott site is hacked but he offers a substitute: aquascript.com/psc/pdf/BIGCampaignboycottlist.pdf ----------
dissociatedpress.net - Just a Philosophy: A Response to Bill Gates (it's a hit; 22 replies to this one on stuff like search engines logs ((microcontentnews.com ==>> blog lessons: contenu.nu/nublog.html)) and the like)  --------- 174613 on Jewish Nazis, unfortunately not just golemlike yet antisemitically wishful thinking constructs mr de Winter pal!!! (some dutch author who thinks to justify the exchange rate with pointers to india who's Mohamedan dead merit little media attention --- yeah rite! Like we have had great constituents of migrant pops from that stamp) ------------ 174564 Moore on his own (prolonged bestseller) success ----- 175010 Pravda on US policy in the ME (these lamers don't do Solz on jews neither ------ 174704 the 2 ways of war according to Torah by J Berman (with a scathing shredding critique) ---------175657 hope you can seehear this rapoetryslidemusoshow  voiceyourself.com/thoughts/ via pulpculture.org ------- 176324 About the IMF  wdm.org.uk => I tacked some items from ids.ac.uk/cgap onto this one (about microcredit) -------- 176289 Liangry rant scapegoating Switserland --------- 176235 Natural Hygene links ------ 176934 arts scandal in montreal??? otl.20m.com ---------- 176892 Nazi (Sudilkov) zionist (Jenin) comparison; last commenter alledges the nazi uniforms were designed by Hugo Boss.  ------- 176994 trouble for Cree in Canada looming ------- 176509 on porn and sex -- ----- 177000 pedofilia prevalent among the gay comm. ------- unknownnews.net (smoothly loading GIGANTIC page, their first in a loooong list of links: .thundersnake.com/news.htm = abberant news with black background, red links and this colour blurbs ---- a page full of 'news' and only one items earns itself some comments (3):   A burqa, you know, is something a person outside sees. You are inside it. You don't see it, or think it strange. It is there to stop others from seeing you, not you from watching them. ------------- just-food.com ----------------  interview with Michael Moore about his still the list topping hit "Stupid White Men" ignored by Corporate Media -----------176357 Charles Manson -- Air, Trees, Water, Animals. ATWA atwa.com -------------- Openculture.org (a bit meager as yet) ------------- 177437 chariots of fire as caption to a picture of a souped up cycle driven by someone in a solar cell suit ----------177415 Anthrax home brew says Boyle (english) Francis Boyle 10:12pm Tue Apr 30 '02 counterpunch.com/boyle0425.html This is a very disturbing article by Francis Boyle, professor of int'l law at the Univ. of Illinois. BioWarfare, Terror Weapons, and the U.S. Home Brew?  ------------- disarm-trade.org/ ---------------- 177340Indigenous Targets of Colombian Paramilitaries (english) by Oread Daily ----------- 177657 more about that cravenly nihilistic 'leading military historian' Creveld (see 4-29.htm) ---------- questionsquestions.net/ 9/11 skeptics -------  education-is-not-for-sale.org/ 10 lingual site

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